US Liberties Further Eroded

INTERPOL

In June 1983, President Ronald Reagan issued Executive Order 12425 which recognized the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) as an international organization according to the International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945. However, President Reagan also respected the United States Constitution and ensured that certain exceptions were placed on this order.

“…except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act.”

This is very important in securing the constitutional liberties and rights we enjoy in this country – the greatest in the world! Section 2(c) of the Act would have made INTERPOL immune from searches and their archives inviolable. This usually applies to embassies and diplomatic officials. Section 2(d) would have allowed INTERPOL to operate with impunity in our country, snapping up Americans for whatever reason the agency sees fit and for whatever crimes the international community deems appropriate – like gun control measures. It ensures that any INTERPOL agents coming into this country are registered and known by the United States Government.

Section 4 exempted INTERPOL from paying US taxes for their operations and income. Additionally, any equipment and money brought into the country would be exempt from import tariffs.

Section 5 of the Act exempts international organizations from Social Security taxes. Section 6 exempts them from property taxes in this country.

When recognizing INTERPOL as an international agency, Reagan understood that certain restrictions should be placed to protect our citizens from violations of our constitutional rights. Therefore, he ensured that those sections of the Act not apply to INTERPOL. After all, if INTERPOL were not excluded from those sections, they could have snatched up Americans “guilty” of international crimes and our law enforcement and justice systems would be unable to file FOIA or other requests for proof of their “crimes.” Their records would not be open to scrutiny by our government or American citizens.

Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. Last week, President Obama amended Executive Order 12425:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words “except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act” and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

BARACK OBAMA

INTERPOL may now operate with impunity within our borders and among our population without even informing the government. They now have complete immunity. Now that an international police force has unlimited authority in this country, what’s next? Will the United States next fall under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Courts? The United Nations?

Folks our Constitution is under attack. Our individual freedoms and national sovereignty are being threatened.

Article IV, Section 4 of the United States Constitution requires our government to “protect [the states] against Invasion.” Or was that exempted under this amendment too?

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26 Comments on “US Liberties Further Eroded

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  2. Kevin has done a good job of explaining this and debunking the nonsense. I agree, I don’t see what danger this change has done. A lot of the hue and cry over this have been made by people who have absolutely no idea what Interpol does. They don’t even seem to be aware that we participate in Interpol and benefit greatly from that participation.
    This is a just another baseless screed against the Obama Administration. There are things to complain about — this isn’t one of them.
    I am also a lawyer with two decades in military and international criminal law.
    Happy New Year. And CJ, who states that he is ‘not ignorant on how to read the law’ should do just that. Read the law Executive Orders that both Reagan and Obama signed and also read the relevant law.

    • Tell you what Jan. Instead of coming in here and talking in generalities, why don’t you enlighten us all that “have absolutely no idea what Interpol does.” Keep in mind, of course, that I word in national security. Please tell us how be we benefit, what they do, and what “really” changed under this executive. Don’t just come in here and tell me where I’m wrong. Show me. If my critique is so baseless, where am I wrong. If nothing changed under Obama’s actions, why did he do it? What changes did it allow?

      Please enlighten me and others with your “legal” knowledge. And so you know, I’ve read the both complete EOs AND the Act in question. If I’m missing some “relevant law” please also help us tell the real your story.

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  4. CJ, you say, “they didn’t have that power until President Obama gave it to them.” I asked you to point out where, in those Reagan exceptions that Obama took back (or anywhere else), you find that power you say Obama gave them that they didn’t have before. I didn’t find it, and you haven’t shown me.

    I’ve never heard of Interpol agents in this country scooping up anybody, and as far as I can see they have no more power to do that now than they did before.

    I suspect — and that’s all it is — that the reason behind this is that the US government doesn’t want terrorist groups or their sympathizers learning the identity, activity and movements of Interpol agents. They are conduits for very sensitive information between national security agencies. It may be that US agencies want to be able to bring in foreign law enforcement people from time to time who have expertise we need … maybe someone fluent in Arabic who can walk into a mosque, understand what’s going on, and not arouse suspicion. Not many of those on our local police forces.

    This is only a guess, but imagine that a friendly government of a Muslim country is willing to lend us a few people under the cover of Interpol, but if word got out that the country’s government was supplying the US with people to spy on fellow-Muslims, there would be hell to pay politically, and the agents themselves would have a good chance of being murdered. What if an Islamist-front organization were to sue the US government for violating their constitutional rights by spying on them using Interpol, and subpoena Interpol’s records as relevant evidence, even though Interpol and its agents themselves can’t be sued?

    Islamist organizations are learning how to use our Constitution and our courts for their own purposes, and if I were a lawyer working for a friendly foreign government, I’d certainly raise the issue. There are probably ways that the US government could intervene and block discovery, but it would be far better to cut it off at the pass, with no mess, no arguments about national security, just “no.”

    Immunities are there for a reason, they are given because we want other nations’ cooperation, and they are almost always reciprocal. We probably have our own people in other countries with the knowledge and permission of the other government’s security/law enforcement agencies who are “off the books.”

    It looks like President Obama was using his lawful powers under the Act, and since it involves Interpol, it’s likely that he can’t come out and explain publicly who wanted the change and why. As I said, I’m guessing, but my guess seems a lot more plausible than that President Obama just happened to think it would be a good idea to expand Interpol’s immunities, much less make it easier for other countries to violate our national sovereignty by abducting our citizens.

    Got to go. Happy New Year, and God bless America.

    • So, Kevin, what you’re saying is that absolutely nothing changed under Obama’s order? Interpol has no more privileges or rights than they ever had since Reagan’s order? Am I reading you right here?

  5. OK, CJ, I’ll explain. I graduated from law school in 1982, and although I can be mistaken like anyone else, I am used to reading this kind of stuff. And English is my first language.

    I am going by the text of the International Organizations Immunities Act at the link you posted, and I assume that it is currently the law.

    Section I authorizes the President, by executive order, to grant to any international organization in which the US participates the privileges and immunities listed in “this titile,” i.e., “Title I” of the statute, and to condition, withhold, or limit any of those privileges.

    You say that President Reagan issued an order granting to Interpol the privileges and immunities provided, “…except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act,” and that President Obama in an executive order has declared that Interpol now has all of the privileges and immunities provided under the Act without exception.

    I looked at those privileges and immunities that President Reagan’s order withheld and President Obama’s order grants. I just don’t see anything that affect my civil rights.

    Section 2(c), which now applies to Interpol, reads:

    “Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.”

    Whether or not this is a good idea, this doesn’t allow Interpol to abduct or detain anyone. And under the Act the President has the authority to withdraw any of the privileges under the Act if it is abused.

    The “portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes,” that President Reagan withheld and that President Obama has granted, do not, so far as I can see, impact the civil liberties of Americans, nor do Sections 4, 5 and 6, which relate to the collection and payment of US income taxes, social security taxes, and property taxes respectively.

    All other privileges and immunities listed in the Act were not exempted by President Reagan’s order, so Interpol has had them all along.

    So what am I missing? I don’t want Interpol at my door; I just don’t understand your concern.

    • Kevin, I didn’t graduate law school because I got fed up with the profession and left formal schooling to educate myself properly. So, I don’t have bestowed upon any state recognized “degree to be smart” but I’m not ignorant about how to read law either.

      Let’s say Interpol has a target because in some fictitious international court that court decided that an American violated the “law.” Well, Interpol can scoop that person up in the dark of night with people our government doesn’t even know is in the country because they don’t have to register. If we get wind of the abduction, we can’t force them to release their records because they now have immunity.

      I don’t want the president to withdraw authority AFTER an entity abuses their power. I don’t want them to have the power EVER! That’s the point you’re missing. They didn’t have that power until President Obama gave it to them. Reagan knew the power it would have given them and had the foresight to exempt them from those provisions. Obama is a NWO adherent leaps above the first President Bush!

      It’s not that don’t understand my concern, it’s that you won’t. I’m not saying any of this WILL happen. I’m saying that Obama made it POSSIBLE and put Americans in undue risk.

  6. Hold on, CJ. I followed your links, and I don’t see anything in the International Organizations Immunities Act that would give Interpol the right to seize US citizens, anymore than the staff of a foreign embassy (which enjoys similar immunity) would have that right. Please point me to some explanation of your conclusion, which would scare anybody, but I don’t see how it is justified.

    • Kevin, did you even read the post? I spelled it out for you. If you need me translate it into another language you might understand, I’d need you to pay for it. I only speak English and Spanish. Since when is any foreign embassy charged with enforcing international laws and making arrests? Interpol is NOT an embassy. Embassies are NOT Interpol. They would have freedom, registration-free, to roam wherever they choose under this EO. Sorry you can’t see that. Perhaps you can explain to us all here how I”m wrong.

  7. Interpol’s Nazi Affiliations Continued After War

    The Interpol hierarchy has had an unhealthy history of close connections to National Socialism. Not only did Interpol share its headquarters with the Gestapo during World War II, but it also officially operated as a division within the Nazi Security Police. Two Nazi war criminals, Reinhard Heydrich and then Ernst Kaltenbruner were the agency’s wartime presidents.

    The right-wing bias continued after the war. In 1963, Jean Nepote was elected Interpol’s president. He had collaborated with France’s collaborationist Vichy Government during the war. In 1968, Interpol elected Paul Dickopf as its president. Although it was discovered that he had been an SS officer in the war, having worked in the very villa where Interpol and the Gestapo were headquartered, he nevertheless remained president until 1972.

    Although the current secretary general, Raymond E. Kendall, is well intentioned, Interpol’s interest in Nazi war criminals during the crucial 1950’s and 60’s was nonetheless virtually nonexistent. Admitting its past mistakes is the first step in making Interpol the vaunted police organization that the public often perceives it to be.

    GERALD L. POSNER

    New York, Feb. 22, 1990

    The writer is co-author of ”Mengele: The Complete Story” (1986).

  8. Wow, but seriously…is anyone REALLY surprised by this coming from Obama? I agree that this is horrible. It’s scary to say the least. What’s really very sad is that most, NOT ALL, but the majority of the people who voted for him wouldn’t understand this, just as they didn’t truly understand the reasons in which we should vote and the responsibility attached. Sorry if that was harsh…just my opinion. Yes, I know, like something else, everyone has one! It’s just that I’ve talked with so many people who have voted for him that have no idea what’s going on in the world around them…one thought the war was over a few years ago…UMMMM, yeah.

  9. Merry Christmas Brother

    I agree..as a gun shot retired NC Police Officer.

    Better a gun in your hand then a cop on the phone.

    Conn is a fine state..ISupported George Bush at the USCG Academyin Conn. when Code Stinks and Vietnam Vets Against The War Babbled on the curb.

    I wish there were more Liberals with your frame of mind.

    Take care and have a great 2010.

    Pop Um..Drop Um..Then call 911 for a clean up detail.

  10. Bob the Liberal says:
    24 December 2009 at 5:44 am
    Yeah, this is seriously something I don’t agree with. Anybody from them tries to come into my home, or touch any member of my family, they will get shot.

    Well Said ..Brother Liberal
    Remember PC is memtal Morphine.

    Just say NO to socialism and Gun Control

    911..Govewrment..dial a pray.

    • My friend, I am a liberal in many things. But one this I am not liberal in is this…

      “the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

      I keep a weapon in my home to protect my family. I have used it before to protect my family, and will not hesitate to use it again. I don’t own a handgun, but if this stupid state I live in (Connecticut) ever gets their collective heads out of their arses, I will own one.

      I never served. But not for lack of wanting to. Six months before my 18th birthday, a physical problem made me ineligible for service. So, I do what I can. I volunteered to sit on my local draft board. I have the ID card in my wallet.

      • Bob,

        I am curious … when did you serve on the draft board and how did you feel yourself a contributor to putting a man’s life on on the line when you had so little experience in
        life itself…(I guess that’s why the generals say that 18-year olds make the
        best soldiers…)
        This is not to be confrontational… just
        curiosity of your mind-set at the time…

        A Vet..

        Greg Lorenzen

  11. First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    As a retired military officer I decline to stand mute and I decline to submit..Period.

    “Ask not for whom the bells toll,.They toll for thee”

    I stand proud with my Brothers and Sisters as a “Threat To Homeland Security”

    You ?

  12. Yeah, this is seriously something I don’t agree with. Anybody from them tries to come into my home, or touch any member of my family, they will get shot.

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  14. Charles Nystrom, Maj. US Army Retired

    I really doubt that anything will be done to protect Constitutional Rights, unless it is done by the people. Hope there are enough left with the hair.

  15. This frightens me to think that INTERPOL could now come into this country, snatch me up for a crime I committed and then hold me in another country. I hope if that ever happens other citizens in this great country retaliate and teach them they can’t just side step my basic human rights and the rights of my constitution.

  16. I’m appalled, but then again every day we suffer another indignity, another affront against our liberties by this person and the cabal that works with him.

    It is his and his cronies fondest desire to push this country to it’s limits before the next election. Our next President will have to spend at least his or her first month in office doing nothing but nullifying the damage this person has visited on our country.

    I sincerely hope they do not consider coming for an American citizen on our soil.

  17. WTF is This ?

    As Interpol worked so well with the Nazi SS and Gastpo..during WW-2. Can I expect we here in America will be treated with the same respect for law and order as the French Jews rounded up for shippment to the death camps

    I hope the first things they investigate is his… BS… Birth Certificate..Pass Ports..& his registration for the US Military Draft.

    Bravo Pesident Obama
    Welcome to The
    “Second American Revolution”

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